The Sons Of God-Who Are They?

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By Deborah Sexton

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Who Are The Sons Of God?

The only place in scripture that says Adam (Ha-adamah means man) was the son of God is in Luke 3:23-38. (The Hebrews do not accept the Gospel of Luke. Many believe parts of Luke were copied from "The Gospel Of The Hebrews")

Adam was a son of God because Adam was directly created by God in His image.. Adams children were created in the image of Adam

Genesis 5:3
And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, and after his image; and called his name Seth

The Angels were also directly created by God, and the Bible says they were made a little higher than man, so it is obvious they were created in his image also.


God formed the first humans Himself. All other Humans came from the reproduction process between male and female and are not created DIRECTLY by God.

Genesis 1:27

So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

Genesis 5:2

Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.

The first time the "Sons of God" are mentioned is in Genesis 6:4

Genesis 6:4

There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

The "sons of God" are contrasted with the "daughters of man"

They had to be different otherwise there would not be a distinction.

Many people believe that the sons of God are descendants of Seth. This can't be true because his descendants are most likely children of human men and women, meaning they have become more, and more diluted and are not the people (Ha-Adamah) formed by God..

If the "Sons of God" were mankind, it would need to be those directly formed by God and the "Daughters of Men" would need to be those directy born through the reproduction process.

That is the only reason they could be different. And they would have to be different to bring into life "Mighty Men" and "Men of Renown"

The offspring of the Sons of God and Daughters of Men were not the giants because Genesis 6:4 says there were giants and "ALSO AFTER THAT" the sons of God married the daughters of men.

Genesis 6:4

There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that,.....

The offspring of the "Sons of God" and "Daughters of Men' were "Mighty" men and "Were of Old, Men of Renown" not giants.

Genesis 6:4

.......when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

After the fall God said he would put enmity between the Seducer's/Oppressor's/Snake's seed and Eve's seed.

Genesis 3:15

And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

This was a prophecy about the Nephillim seed.

In Hebrew the Beni Elohim (Sons of God) are angels not people.

Bn'y Elohim (Angelic Choir) Sons of God pronounced Benee El Oh Heem. They are the easiest accessed angels in Hod on the tree of life. Which rules instincts and is a part of and also the opposite of Netzach the place of our emotions.

When a Hebrew Translates The Hebrew Words In Genesis 6, It Takes On A Different Meaning

Translation By A Hebrew (Hebrew-English Bible)

1 It happened, when men began to multiply on the surface of the ground, and daughters were born to them, 2 that God's sons saw that men's daughters were beautiful, and they took for themselves wives of all that they chose. 3 The LORD said, "My spirit will not strive with man forever, because he also is flesh; yet will his days be one hundred twenty years." 4 These Fallen (Nefilim) were in the eretz (Land) in those days, and also after that, when God's sons came to men's daughters. They bore children to them: the same were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown. 5 The LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the eretz, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. 6 The LORD was sorry that he had made man on the eretz, and it grieved him in his heart. 7 The LORD said, "I will destroy man whom I have created from the surface of the ground; man, along with animals, creeping things, and birds of the sky; for I am sorry that I have made them."

Nephilim Does Not Mean Giants

Nephilyim is a Hebrew word translated in the King James version as giants. It comes from the root "naphal," meaning These fallen or fallen ones,

The Hebrew to English translations say that the word Nephilim means Giant. But Hebrew for "Those Fallen" is אלה הנופלים.

In Hebrew a simple noun is composed of the two or three letters of its root. Other nouns are derived from this root by placing specific letters as fixes (prefixes, infixes or suffixes) to the root. Often two nouns are put together to form one idea.

If we break down the words for "Those Fallen" אלה הנופלים

Heh, Nun, Pe, Yod, Lamed, Yod, Mem (The Pe in the middle of a word has the sound of an F as in Face)

It is pronounced "Hey-Npylym" Or Those "Nephilim"

The letters ים contained in הנופלים as a suffix means Means "Day" and the ם means they are masculine. The ים is a duel Plural
The word אלה (Those) used as a pronoun means "those ones" but also mean as a noun Oath, Imprecation, curse

So Those ones who were Divine and of the day (light) and who are cursed by the spoken word (of God)...Fallen Angels.

The story in Genesis 6:4 is told in past tense. If it was in present tense it would say "There were Angels in the earth in those days; and also after that,.....

But told in past tense, the author is aware that the angels fell after this act of mixing seed with humans.

Human men (regardless of how righteous they are) and Human women can never produce mighty men.

God was upset with this union because He had created everything to have offspring after it's kind.

In the Old Testament, the term "sons of God" (b'ny Elohim) is never used of humans, but always of supernatural beings that are higher than man and lower than God. The only beings to fit that category are angels. And the term "sons of God" applies to both good and bad angels

The term "sons of God" is used four other times in the Old Testament, each time referring to angels. In Daniel 3:25, where king Nebuchadnezzar looks into the fiery furnace and sees four men, "and the form of the fourth is like the son of God." " Since Yahshua had not yet become the "only begotten son" of God, this "son" would have had to be angelic

In Job, God asked him if he was there when the Sons of God shouted for joy. God was speaking of when he laid the foundations of the Earth. Long before man was formed.

Job 38:7
When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

He could only be speaking of the heavenly hosts..angels

Many people argue that angels don't procreate and they try to prove it with this scripture

Matthew 22:30
For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven

But Yahshua was trying to get two points across to the Sadducees. The Sadducees didn't believe in life after death (the resurrection). 1. That in the resurrection, we would never die. 2. That there would be no new marriages in the afterlife.

The way we are as the angels, is that we won't die. Yahshua isn't referring to marriage.

This is made plainer in Luke 20

Luke 20:35
But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage

Luke 20:36
Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection

This only means that angels don't marry and does not mean, they don't have partners. . Man was given choice to do whatever. Mankind marries and divorces and remarries. But in the next life they won't marry or be given in marriage either.

Whoever you are married to in this life, you will still be married to in the afterlife. People who divorce will be alone.

Some people say there are no female angels.

This isn't true either

Zechariah 5:9

Then lifted I up mine eyes, and looked, and, behold, there came out two women, and the wind was in their wings; for they had wings like the wings of a stork: and they lifted up the ephah between the earth and the heaven.

Female angels weren't mentioned much because they did not have the same missions that male angels had.

Some people say that angels are spirits and can't procreate. Again that's not true.

Man was made only a little lower than angels

Psalm 8:5
For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, and hast crowned him with glory and honour.

Men wanted to rape two angels

Genesis 19:1-11
1. And there came two angels to Sodom at even; and Lot sat in the gate of Sodom: and Lot seeing them rose up to meet them; and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground;

2. And he said, Behold now, my lords, turn in, I pray you, into your servant's house, and tarry all night, and wash your feet, and ye shall rise up early, and go on your ways. And they said, Nay; but we will abide in the street all night

3. And he pressed upon them greatly; and they turned in unto him, and entered into his house; and he made them a feast, and did bake unleavened bread, and they did eat.

4. But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter:

5. And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them...Read the rest

All in all the Sons of God in Gen. are angels.

The word Rephaim in Hebrew is רפאים and means "Spirit" or/and "Ghost"


In Jude the angel's sins are compared to the sins of Sodom and Gomorrha

Jude 1:6
And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day

7. Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.


Footnotes

Angels Took on Human Form

Genesis 19

1. The two angels arrived at Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gateway of the city. When he saw them, he got up to meet them and bowed down with his face to the ground. 2. "My lords," he said, "please turn aside to your servant's house. You can wash your feet and spend the night and then go on your way early in the morning." "No," they answered, "we will spend the night in the square." 3. But he insisted so strongly that they did go with him and entered his house. He prepared a meal for them, baking bread without yeast, and they ate.


In Hebrew the word translated as Giant, does not mean giant. The word is He-Nphylym,

Nphylym in the Hebrew tongue means "Those Fallen Ones" Angels. And in Hebrew, the B'ne Elohyim is" Sons of God"  and refer to an Order of Angels. Nowhere in the Hebrew tongue does it refer to Humans.

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fred allen Level 1 Commenter 22 months ago

Your conclusion certainly can not be disproven. It makes me wonder what became of these Son of God.

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HOOWANTSTONO Level 3 Commenter 22 months ago

Angels have the Hebrew name of "Malak" I cant see why anyone would want to change it to "Beni Elohim". Angels are never sons, only humans are sons. Yeshua was the Son of God, so why would another believer in God also not be a son of God. Jesus was Gods only Son, and all that believe in him are also called sons.

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Deborah Sexton Hub Author 22 months ago

Hoowantstono

The Hebrew word for Angel is mal'akh or Mal'ach. No one said the word Angel is Beni Elohim. Beni Elohim means "Sons of God" But in Hebrew The sons of God are an order of angels under the Archangel Michael. In Hebrew Beni Elohim does not refer to Humans.

In the New Testament it says we are now called the sons of God. But that is an honor bestowed on those who live an infallible life for God. 1 John 3:1

Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.

Humans were not there when our Father laid the foundations of the Earth..But the Beni Elohim were.

Yahshua was the only "Begotten son of God". The only son born of a woman. All God's other sons were formed or spoken into existence.

But thanks for the comments.

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SilentReed Level 5 Commenter 21 months ago

Please enlighten me. Is lilith a female angel? I read somewhere that God created Adam and Lilith at the same time.So when did Eve get into the picture? I'm confuse.

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Deborah Sexton Hub Author 21 months ago

Lilith is from folklore and I don't know much about her.

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lightning john 21 months ago

Very nice read Deborah, I cannot say that I really fully understand anything about the bible, but I do believe that people do carry on certain traits through their bloodline.

That fact is undeniable. There are some rather large humans on the earth right now that are really extraordinary.

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Deborah Sexton Hub Author 21 months ago

Thanks for your comment Lightning John.

Yes the tallest human was 8'11" and he lived in the 1800s.

That's pretty tall. In Hebrew there is a long cubit 21 inches and a short cubit 18 inches.

In Deuteronomy 3:11 it says the giants bed was 9 cubits long and 4 cubits wide. That's 13 ft 5 long and 6 ft wide if using the 18 inch cubit and if using the 21 inch cubit that is 15 ft 8 inches long and 7 ft wide.

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EnergyAdvisor 21 months ago

Nice work on this! and nice meeting you. I came here hopping. Although I'm not a believer or follower of the bible I do find it all interesting. It's a faith of people and I like people:)

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Deborah Sexton Hub Author 21 months ago

EnergyAdvisor-Thanks for your comment and kind words

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Deborah Sexton Hub Author 21 months ago

S.K. No it doesn't. Don't know what website you've studied but it means the Sons of God. Angels. The prefix "Ha" which is "Heh" meaning "The" doesn't prove anything. Man was not called sons. and Bn'y Elohym means a particular order of angels in Hebrew. And it doesn't say The son of Gods. It says the sons of God. Please don't use my hub to advertise yours.

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Deborah Sexton Hub Author 21 months ago

S.K. There is no difference in calling them "The sons of Gods" and "The sons of the Gods"

Calling me "Not a woman" because I disagree with you is childish and it does not make me biased. You have deleted many of my comments, yet I didn't call you names.

If you had posted your comments without directing people to your hub I would have allowed your first comment. But we are not suppose to support what is against truth.

I've spoken Hebrew since I was 18 years old and my husband was born in Israel. Yet you say you know Hebrew more than me.

All I've done is quote scripture and given my conclusion.

You say you will not contact me again. I thought you had already decided that. It is fine with me.

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Lady Guinevere Level 6 Commenter 21 months ago

I see you have gotten all those Fundies irratated. If they run the course as they did all my religious hubs they will tell others that you are spreading lies and to not read your hubs. Keep writing. They can't stop the truth. They may ignore it, but they will eventually see it for what it is. It may not be in this life but they will. Another great hub!

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Deborah Sexton Hub Author 21 months ago

Thank you L.G., You are right, if they are meant to see they will. Yahshua said that is why He spoke in parables, so that those who weren't His wouldn't understand.

Oh yes, If I didn't have these that don't like my hubs, I wouldn't have any friends on Hubpages at all. LOL, well one or two.

Matthew 13:10-11...

10. And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?

11. He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given

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Judah's Daughter Level 6 Commenter 21 months ago

You make some very good points, Deborah. I just wonder why you didn't print the whole verse of Gen 6:4, but separated it? "There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown." This whole passage is one unit, as it's not separated by periods. Why mention the giants in this verse, if they had nothing to do with the sons of God coming into (having sex with) the daughters of men? It appears here that the giants were the children of them, the same (the giants) became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

There were giants on the earth after the flood, too; they, of course, were the Rephaim, who were 'of the Nephilim'. The Nephilim were destroyed in the flood. All the Rephaim mentioned in the Bible were destroyed by David and his brothers.

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Deborah Sexton Hub Author 21 months ago

Thanks for commenting. I don't always type the whole verse so I can emphasize particular things. I figure everyone owns a Bible and can read it or go online. But I did print the whole verse here. I just made a comment in between

And yes I knew about the giants being Rephaim.

Although in Hebrew the suffix "im"is plural..it doesn't always mean more than one or many, it can mean something or someone having 2 different natures. Like half angel and half human.

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Judah's Daughter Level 6 Commenter 21 months ago

I know you don't like hub info from Hubbers, but I have done some study and publishing on the Rephaim and even the interaction of the spirit realm with humans (embodiment, possession and influence) throughout all time. Fascinating! What you said aligns perfectly. Thank you!

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Deborah Sexton Hub Author 21 months ago

The word Rephaim in Hebrew is ????? and means "Spirit" or/and "Ghost"

If they were a tribe of people, it would have used the suffix "Ites" as in Israelites. The "im" not only shows they are a spiritual entity (spirit) but it shows they have a double nature. Flesh and spirit

They slept in beds (Og) so we know they were flesh, yet they were Rephanim (Spirits)

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Judah's Daughter Level 6 Commenter 21 months ago

Without citing the source (you may be more familiar with the source)...the spirits of the dead Nephilim were to become demons on the earth. Those 'spirits' or 'ghosts' embodied the Rephaim, though they were not as sizable as their previous bodies (pre-flood). Surely, this specific information is not in the Bible canon, yet the Bible does not contradict this possibility, based on the word studies and content. Just curious ~ do you know where Arba (the only recorded source of the Rephaim) came from? His lineage?

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Deborah Sexton Hub Author 21 months ago

My Hebrew word for Rephaim shows up as question marks (above) What the heck.?

I'll try again ?????

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Deborah Sexton Hub Author 21 months ago

I've never heard of it.

You can cite your source. I'd be interested in reading it.

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Judah's Daughter Level 6 Commenter 21 months ago

Enoch 15:8 states, “And now, the giants, who are proclaimed from the spirits and flesh, shall be called evil spirits upon the earth, and on the earth shall be their dwelling. Evil spirits have proceeded from their bodies; because they are born from men and from the holy Watchers is their beginning and primal origin; they shall be evil spirits on earth, and evil spirits shall they be called.”

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Deborah Sexton Hub Author 21 months ago

Thank you. I've read Enoch but not all, and I haven't studied it.

Now I will.

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Deborah Sexton Hub Author 21 months ago

Still ???? marks. Well I put the Hebrew word in the end of my hub. Seems comments don't know Hebrew

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Judah's Daughter Level 6 Commenter 21 months ago

Nope ~ comments won't post anything but English, I think.

I have "The Book of Enoch or Enoch 1" Complete Exhaustive Edition by R.H. Charles, D. Litt., D.D., published by Oxford at the Clarendon Press 1912. I guess there's 1, 2 and 3 ~ I don't know...I just read a good portion of this edition and I can see why it was not included in the canon ~ might be too much for people to see all that was going on in the spirit realm ~ as recorded in this book.

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Lady Guinevere Level 6 Commenter 21 months ago

I have the complete book, in video on two of my hubs, Enoch Prelude and The Book of Enoch. Most religious will not even take that book seriously.

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Deborah Sexton Hub Author 21 months ago

Thanks Judah for the information.

I don't disagree with you on all spiritual truths. I was happy to see the subjects on many of your hubs.

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Deborah Sexton Hub Author 21 months ago

Thanks L.G. I'll take a look

billy g. 21 months ago

this idea seem ludicrous. i've read a number of hubs on this same topic and those that disagree have made more valid points than those who support it. in respect, it seems the advocators of angels having sex with daughter's of men believe what came out of mythology "gods copulating with human maidens".

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Lady Guinevere Level 6 Commenter 21 months ago

billy g. Ludicrous or not it is in the Bible.

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Deborah Sexton Hub Author 21 months ago

Today the Angels that do this are called Incubus

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Deborah Sexton Hub Author 21 months ago

Billy G. Please expound on this. If you know more than me, please give your arguments.

billy g. 21 months ago

i don't know much about the bible but something doesn't sound right with angels having sex with women. i don't if you believe or not the bible is the inspired word of God, but don't you think it would be more unique if the bible was the only religious book that doesn't claim "angels" or "gods" fathered children with women? every mythological tale i've read from different cultures they all claim "gods" had sex with women. even most religions. to me i believe the bible would stand out as not advocating it. it would be basically the only religion not supporting angels interbreeding.

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Deborah Sexton Hub Author 21 months ago

Billy: Of course it doesn't sound right, that is why God our Father punished them.

Being unique isn't the point, it is truth the Torah (Old Testament) deals with.

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Deborah Sexton Hub Author 20 months ago

Does anyone know for sure what the answer is to my Quiz?

carlo 19 months ago

thank you for making people aware of the great misunderstanding in-regards to the TORAH

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Deborah Sexton Hub Author 19 months ago

Thank for reading my hub Carlo.

Tell me, do you live by the Jewish Scripture?

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Disappearinghead Level 3 Commenter 19 months ago

Yes I've seen that episode of the X-Files too.

Man has always loved the idea of supernatural mysteries as an escape from the mundane material existence. All over the world cults and religions held that their ancestors were descended from gods.

If I take an photo of myself, I have created a picture in my own image. But that picture is made of paper and ink, and not the same stuff as me. In the same way God made Adam in His image, but not of the same stuff. So God is spirit, man is flesh and nothing but flesh. Likewise angels are not made of material.

Now from what I remember from the birds and the bees, in order to create human offspring genetic material is required from a man and a woman. So as angels are not material, they have no material DNA, thereby making human/angel hybrid mighty men impossible.

To say that mighty men cannot be born of men and women is ridiculous. How are you defining mighty? Mighty to a Viking is a feeless warrior built like a brick privy. Mighty today could me someone awarded with a noble prize.

It makes perfect sense that the sons of God were the descendants of Seth and the daughters of men were the daughters of Cain. Cain was cast out, Seth continued the line of those who worshipped God. The crime was that Seth's decendants were marrying out. Surely marrying out to this day is one of the biggest crimes to Jews.

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Deborah Sexton Hub Author 18 months ago

Disappearing head. I think your mind is disappearing along with your head.

This shows the angels gave themselves over to fornication when they went after strange flesh the same as Sodom and Gomorrha.

The angels were made only a little higher than man. They could change their form. They were definitely flesh, because they ate, slept, wore clothes, was attractive to humans..

Jude 1

6. And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

7. Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

8. Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.

What were some of the sins in Sodom and Gomorrha?

They desired to have sex with Angels (they went after strange flesh) It's easy to see and understand.

Genesis 19:1

1. And there came two angels to Sodom at even; and Lot sat in the gate of Sodom: and Lot seeing them rose up to meet them; and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground

2. And he said, Behold now, my lords, turn in, I pray you, into your servant's house, and tarry all night, and wash your feet, and ye shall rise up early, and go on your ways. And they said, Nay; but we will abide in the street all night.

3. And he pressed upon them greatly; and they turned in unto him, and entered into his house; and he made them a feast, and did bake unleavened bread, and they did eat.

4. But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter:

5. And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.

6. And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him,

7. And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly.

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lone77star Level 6 Commenter 16 months ago

Deborah, thank you for this beautiful Hub. I learned a lot, though I disagree with many of your conclusions. However, I do applaud your creativity and scholarship. Well done!

I particularly appreciate knowing more about the Nefilim--that they are the "fallen." Perfect!

Genesis 1:26-27 talks of Man being created in the image of God. That image is purely and only spiritual--non-physical, immortal and a source of creation. The talk of "male" and "female" is a distraction and misdirection when taken too literally. Doesn't the Kabbalah speak of male and female portions of God and the Tree of Life? This is not male and female Homo sapiens. Later, when God creates Man again, this time it is of the dust of the ground. God's image is not that of "dust." This is a second creation. This is Homo sapiens--physical matter.

Adam of the Garden was spiritual in nature. He and his mate died a spiritual death. All references to physical things (tree, fruit, serpent, fig leaves, etc.) may have been purely symbolic for very real emotion, motivation, conflict and guilt. "Fallen" means they were escorted out of the Garden of Heaven as a product of their decision to accept ego as their Master rather than God. Ego consists of the dichotomies of good-evil, right-wrong, generous-selfish, compassion-indifference, wisdom-stupidity, victim-perpetrator and a host of others. Even the most wise, compassionate doer of good is not a "Son of God" so long as they are doing it for ego. The ego-self is mortal, temporary and vulnerable. The true "son of God" is the immortal and invulnerable soul within. That's my take on it.

Deborah, you said, "The way we are as the angels, is that we won't die. Yahshua isn't referring to marriage."

And yet, verses 25-28 are all about their question of marriage and marital status after the resurrection. What Jesus told them was in direct response to their concerns regarding marriage. So, yes it was about marriage. They are as angels because of both longevity and a lack of marriage. That is the only reason Jesus said, "Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God," because they did not understand that marriage has no part of the resurrection. Marriage is a bodily activity. The resurrection is of the spirit.

With verse 30, Jesus is emphasizing the point. To think that the last part of verse 30 refers to longevity is non sequitur. He is emphasizing the lack of marriage, because the entire argument was about marriage.

And verse 32 is most revealing: "I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living."

God is not the Father of Homo sapiens bodies, but of the immortal spirit (fallen angels) within. He is not the Father of mortal males and females.

We humans are a mixed bag: sleeping (fallen) immortal child of God, ego (created, physical pseudo-self), Homo sapiens body. Perpendicular to the dichotomies of ego and infinitely distant is the realm of the sleeping children of God--their true home. And yet that home is within, merely a decision away.

Rod Martin, Jr.

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Deborah Sexton Hub Author 16 months ago

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Thank you for reading and commenting on my hub.

When I write a hub, it is never to try to convince someone to think like me.

It is to give information in case someone wants it.

The question in Matthew 22:24 wasn't really about marriage, it was about the resurrection. The Sadducees didn't believe in the resurrection, so they thought their question would pose an argument against it. In other words they were trying to trick Yahshua.

Yahshua never taught that it is OK to remarry. He taught that fornication gives us the right to divorce, and that's all.

In Matthew 19:9, Yahshua taught man and wife become one flesh.

He also taught that marrying and giving in marriage was a thing of this world.

But that doesn't prove that angels do not have partners in the angelic realm.

Eve was made for Adam, but they never married, they just were.

Luke 20:34

34. And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage

35. But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:

36. Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.

37. Now that the dead are raised, even Moses shewed at the bush, when he calleth the Lord the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.

38. For he is not a God of the dead, but of the living: for all live unto him.

But here Yahshua was speaking of in the resurrection.

The angels in Gen.6 were here on earth, not in the angelic realm. They had decided to leave their first estate to marry the daughters of men.

As I stated, "Adam was a son of God because Adam was "directly" created by God in His image.. Adams children were created in the image of Adam:

Since we are all created in the image of our parents, and Adam was created in the image of God, we are also somewhat in the image of God, but only those directly created directly by God were considered the "Sons of God" The angels and the first man.

In Hebrew, the words for "The Sons of God" Is Bn'y Elohyim, and is literally Angels.

They are an order of angels who have the attributes of instincts and emotions.

After the fall God said he would put enmity between the Seducer's/Oppressors seed and Eve's seed.

KJV- Genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

This was a prophecy about the Nephilim's seed.

The word "Naphal", in Hebrew does mean "These Fallen Ones" but in the Hebrew language, "These Fallen ones" means fallen angels.

Men, fallen from God, do not produce "Mighty men of renown".

The first estate of an angel, is in the spirit realm, but because they are messengers of God, they are also able to take on the non-spiritual, fleshy second nature. We see this in scripture many times. When the angels took on the fleshy nature, they ate food and drank.

Jude 1:6-7 Shows that the angels left their own habitation

"And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day."

7. "Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire"

The angels were likened to those of Sodom and Gomorrha, who went after strange flesh.

I agree, in God's image does not mean we look like Him. I stated this in my hub

http://hubpages.com/hub/The-Misunderstanding-Of-Bi

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Deborah Sexton Hub Author 16 months ago

Lone77star

That link doesn't work for some reason. Here it is again

http://hubpages.com/hub/The-Misunderstanding-Of-Bi

Kirui 16 months ago

In Genesis, we are told there were disendance of Anak. This was before flood. After flood, only Noah's familly was left. But somwhere when isralites were spying Cannan, they saw discendans of Anak. What was this man he wrote the bible talking about? Somewhere in Amos God said 'when israel was young, I loved him and out of Egypt I called my son'. When promising David his son solomon, he said 'I will be his father and he will be my son'. Somewhere in Isaiah, he said 'I will bring Israel back from nations. I will say to the north, bring back my sons'. Somewhere in Psalms he told David, 'you are my son, today I have become your father'. What am I saying? God reffering someone as his son is to show his love in the best way it can be shown to a man. God's love is from everlasting.It is the love of a father to his son even in Old Testament he doesn't change. When he saw men even when they were sinning in Noah's days, he saw his sons. It is not about 'biology,' it is about unmeritted favor.

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Deborah Sexton Hub Author 16 months ago

The things you are referring to says "shall be CALLED the sons of god. This is speaking of in the world to come.

Hosea 1:10

Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, [that] in the place where it was said unto them, Ye [are] not my people, [there] it shall be said unto them, [Ye are] the sons of the living God.

Kirui 16 months ago

You are correct in saying that they are also used propheticaly. But consider the context of solomon; he added 'when he go wrong, I will punish him'. Do you beleive there will be punishments in the world to come? Many prophesis in old testament had two meanings; one that applied at that time and one that applied at distant future. The ones I have mentioned are examples of such prophesis. Also you made a mistake, the one talking about God's son comming from Egypt is clearly riferring to past tense. But I am sorry I said 'Amos' it is actually 'Hosea'. The one about David in Psalms say; 'you ARE my son, TODAY, I have become your father. What do you mean by saying they are all referring to those that 'shall be'?

kiruy 14 months ago

Do I read about people saying Anak (desbendants of nephilim) is actually Anunnaki,the aliens from planet x ? They say they are the ones who genetically modified men from apes! So they say the writters of the bible from Sumeria took these aliens as God and angels! What are these people talking about? Please, Deborah say something about this.

I think we need a fresh revellation in our time. Yes, a morden Moses. That God only spoke thaosands of years ago doesn't make sense any more. Why? Did he get tired? Or are these people of long ago simply lyeing to us? To me God is as he ever was and will ever be. If he does not speak today then neigther did he speak at then nor will he ever speak.

Lastly, I don't mean to scare you with this one; read the book of Jude Peter and find a warning; 'bold and arrogant these men are that they even slander celestial beings which even archangel Michael do not dare' they add 'these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand'. Reading genesis, 'the sons of God married daughters of men' too short for me to make a certain conclution Peter says 'he did not spare the angels that sinned' again too short to link with Gennesis or to know exactly which way they sinned. So elaboration is a theory yet what is at danger is slander to very holy beings right before God!

absolute67 6 months ago

The "sons of God" were members of his divine council.Not angels in the sense others think. They are mentioned multiple times. Check Michael Heislers' studies on them and there link to "aliens". I have personal experience in this area. Just google "the divine council"

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